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		<title>By: Scott M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Tom. Of course, you started with my mantra, which I guess I shouldn&#039;t be surprised to see on a list like that. I&#039;m pretty certain that at least half of what I think I know or believe today is wrong. I just don&#039;t know which half. Or how much more than half is wrong. Instead I focus on those few things about which I can be certain and try to live. All of which leads to the statement below in the post above the list.

    &lt;B&gt;There is absolute truth, but not absolute interpretation.&lt;/B&gt;

I know I&#039;ve said things very similar to that more than once. Absolutely everything we experience is filtered through our expectations, our desire, our culture, in short, our entire perception. God conveyed Truth, absolute Truth, to us in the form of his Son. But our understanding and interpretation of the accounts about him and the early church are always filtered through our perception. When we forget the danger inherent in that fact, we stray.

    &lt;B&gt;The problem with love is that it is grey.&lt;/B&gt;

Isn&#039;t it though? Love, real love, takes you to dangerous places. Places where you&#039;re not sure what to do or even what is right. Love starts with the person, not the things the person does. And it rarely comes naturally or easily to us.

    &lt;B&gt;Every time I&#039;ve thought someone should be excluded from the church
       for some reason, I find out that I should be excluded for reasons
       which are just as equal.&lt;/B&gt;

Of course, you&#039;ve heard a lot of my personal reflections on that very point. I never have to look very far or hard.

    &lt;B&gt;There&#039;s something worth learning from every religion and
       every philosophy. Ask what&#039;s right before asking what&#039;s wrong.&lt;/B&gt;

        and

     &lt;B&gt;Find out what&#039;s right about someone else&#039;s beliefs before
        attacking what&#039;s wrong.&lt;/B&gt;

And I made a comment, from my personal experience yesterday morning, almost exactly like the above in meaning just yesterday. That wasn&#039;t the first time, either.

I&#039;ll stop there. But I&#039;m going to keep reading that one. Thanks. Personally, I&#039;m hard-pressed to find much to disagree with. But then, there aren&#039;t a whole lot of the sort of iron-clad claims that lead to strong disagreement on the list. And I don&#039;t have a lot of personal hilltop fortresses worth fighting to defend. I do see how it could be more challenging to others.

I just asked the other day where our prophets were in this time where they are sorely needed. This one may or may not be exercising the full biblical gift (which often looks a whole lot more like a curse from a human perspective), but it&#039;s certainly a start. And the surprising, widespread response to a simple, anonymous blog that, as far as I can tell, makes no effort to garner attention is interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Tom. Of course, you started with my mantra, which I guess I shouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see on a list like that. I&#8217;m pretty certain that at least half of what I think I know or believe today is wrong. I just don&#8217;t know which half. Or how much more than half is wrong. Instead I focus on those few things about which I can be certain and try to live. All of which leads to the statement below in the post above the list.</p>
<p>    <b>There is absolute truth, but not absolute interpretation.</b></p>
<p>I know I&#8217;ve said things very similar to that more than once. Absolutely everything we experience is filtered through our expectations, our desire, our culture, in short, our entire perception. God conveyed Truth, absolute Truth, to us in the form of his Son. But our understanding and interpretation of the accounts about him and the early church are always filtered through our perception. When we forget the danger inherent in that fact, we stray.</p>
<p>    <b>The problem with love is that it is grey.</b></p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it though? Love, real love, takes you to dangerous places. Places where you&#8217;re not sure what to do or even what is right. Love starts with the person, not the things the person does. And it rarely comes naturally or easily to us.</p>
<p>    <b>Every time I&#8217;ve thought someone should be excluded from the church<br />
       for some reason, I find out that I should be excluded for reasons<br />
       which are just as equal.</b></p>
<p>Of course, you&#8217;ve heard a lot of my personal reflections on that very point. I never have to look very far or hard.</p>
<p>    <b>There&#8217;s something worth learning from every religion and<br />
       every philosophy. Ask what&#8217;s right before asking what&#8217;s wrong.</b></p>
<p>        and</p>
<p>     <b>Find out what&#8217;s right about someone else&#8217;s beliefs before<br />
        attacking what&#8217;s wrong.</b></p>
<p>And I made a comment, from my personal experience yesterday morning, almost exactly like the above in meaning just yesterday. That wasn&#8217;t the first time, either.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stop there. But I&#8217;m going to keep reading that one. Thanks. Personally, I&#8217;m hard-pressed to find much to disagree with. But then, there aren&#8217;t a whole lot of the sort of iron-clad claims that lead to strong disagreement on the list. And I don&#8217;t have a lot of personal hilltop fortresses worth fighting to defend. I do see how it could be more challenging to others.</p>
<p>I just asked the other day where our prophets were in this time where they are sorely needed. This one may or may not be exercising the full biblical gift (which often looks a whole lot more like a curse from a human perspective), but it&#8217;s certainly a start. And the surprising, widespread response to a simple, anonymous blog that, as far as I can tell, makes no effort to garner attention is interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmie W. Kersh</title>
		<link>http://www.tomcottar.org/2005/08/01/100-things-ive-learned-about-church/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmie W. Kersh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 14:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like you had a very eventful summer.  One of the sentences cought my attention concerning churches in this area. Two steps towards irrelevance: one, hold an evangelistic event that will impress your christian friends. two, blame the &#039;unbelievers&#039; if they don&#039;t get saved. 

Too bad God has to use modern prophets to slap us in the face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you had a very eventful summer.  One of the sentences cought my attention concerning churches in this area. Two steps towards irrelevance: one, hold an evangelistic event that will impress your christian friends. two, blame the &#8216;unbelievers&#8217; if they don&#8217;t get saved. </p>
<p>Too bad God has to use modern prophets to slap us in the face.</p>
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