Thu 15 May 2008
The Fruit of Culture
Posted by tom cottar under theology
Worship is the fruit of our culture. Any culture. And Piper has said that ‘mission exists because worship does not.’
How does that hit you? Does that sound right? Or cynical? I’ve run across some things this week that have challenged and sharpened my own theology of worship.
Worship Renaissance has some great thoughts on the lament in worship, on on being an Invisible Worship Leader.
At VoxPop, you can check out, among others, Harold Best’s sesh fom the Continuous Worship Conference titled ‘Is Worship The Only Word for Worship?’
Some Important Values for Christian Artists via Justin Taylor.
and I’m open to any ideas you may have on creating more indigenous worship…real time…liquid responsiveness to our community.
Throw me a bone.
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May 15th, 2008 at 9:41 am
If worship happens in community and community is individual and corporate then I suggest the following. If one single individual is committing sin withing the community, then worship will not take place, cannot take place corporately. The OT would have had us to kill the sinner and his entire family. The NT would have us lovingly confront the sinner and if confession and repentence are not expressed, then disassociate with the person in corporate and communal relationships.
Second, we we “worship” backwards it is self evident that we really do not care about what God wants to say to us, but what we want to tell God about us. The Biblical pattern of corporate worship is: God speaks to man and then and only then does man respond to what God is saying. We have it totally opposite.
Finally, if we want to see God move powerfully in our presence we must practice discipline within the community and allow God to speak authoritatively first.
BTW: Glad to hear you guys are ok down there from the storms.
May 15th, 2008 at 9:46 am
Concerning Piper, from the snippet of the quote, I would have to agree that the only reason we have to have a mission in life is because we are not worshipping. If we were worshipping, we would already be on mission and not have to define it.
May 15th, 2008 at 11:19 am
hmmm…if we want God to speak to us (before we speak about or to Him), maybe we need to show up and shut up? …back to the discplines of silence and meditation and prayer and solitude?
If we were worshipping, we’d already be on mission….isn’t worship bascially the same as ‘proclamation’? Forget the five purpose-driven blah-blah…isn’t it all proclamation?
( i know that’s a can of worms that may not need to be opened on a Thursday..)
May 15th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
proclamation of God to man and the response of man to God is worship
Worship is not conjured up by the band or great songs, worship is our response to God speaking to us in the individual or corporate.
Worship is also shutting up and being silent in response to what God has said as well. Worship is our love gift back to God of ourselves, nothing more and nothing less.